Left, Right, Liberal, Conservative, Democrat, Republican....and on and on it goes in here. Nobody here offers up solution's to the world we all live in, be it good, bad or indifferent. You just advocate some regurgitated SHIT. You can all continue to fill these pages with pure SHIT, Paste, Copy, or otherwise, useless BULLSHIT. Let me see some thinking, and attempted actions(s) that provides an option at solution and not just jibberish and wastefull CRAP. Standing behind a politician, or the party, won't cure the issues however; standing behind solution and realization that we need to address some pretty bad woes in this world has now come upon us. No, I don't think the world is coming to an end tomorrow, but its time to address issues outside of political and religeous factions. Working for solution, embrace it.
Cheapseats not true--
The United States two-party system is a complete failure. The country needs a new dynamic third-party, made up of independents and like minded individuals from the center that will change the way the government does business. I would start by privativing and making competitive as many branches of the government as possible. I would further reduce all federal taxes and spending that would be better off in the hands of the state and local governments, namely, education.
As soon as Dems and Repubs get real and realize BOTH parties suck and have sucked for a long time and decide to create a strong opposition to both parties we will finally get some true hope and change.
The United States two-party system is a complete failure. The country needs a new dynamic third-party, made up of independents and like minded individuals from the center that will change the way the government does business. I would start by privativing and making competitive as many branches of the government as possible. I would further reduce all federal taxes and spending that would be better off in the hands of the state and local governments, namely, education.
As soon as Dems and Repubs get real and realize BOTH parties suck and have sucked for a long time and decide to create a strong opposition to both parties we will finally get some true hope and change.
<TABLE class=tborder style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR title="Post 5475123" vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 align=middle width=125>cheapseats</TD><TD class=alt2>Left, Right, Liberal, Conservative, Democrat, Republican....and on and on it goes in here. Nobody here offers up solution's to the world we all live in, be it good, bad or indifferent. You just advocate some regurgitated SHIT. You can all continue to fill these pages with pure SHIT, Paste, Copy, or otherwise, useless BULLSHIT. Let me see some thinking, and attempted actions(s) that provides an option at solution and not just jibberish and wastefull CRAP. Standing behind a politician, or the party, won't cure the issues however; standing behind solution and realization that we need to address some pretty bad woes in this world has now come upon us. No, I don't think the world is coming to an end tomorrow, but its time to address issues outside of political and religeous factions. Working for solution, embrace it. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
You sound like a thinking man- able to see that the Left and Right are simply two sides of the same coin. The fact that your sick and tired of people yapping about bought and paid fors like the Obama's and Mccain's of the world is admirable.
Lobbyists are nothing more than a criminal network of bagmen who pay these politicians senators congressman judges alike enormous sums to vote and rule and judge the way they do. The american peoples interests are not served here- only the interests of the global elite and their cash cow multination corporatons that are sucking the middle class dry like vampires on the hunt. Meanwhile the Church tells us to pray that things will get better and the fat ass well offers tell us "dont worry- be happy!"
Youve got to remember that the SHIT that people regurgitate on this board can usually be traced back to the talking points of the political cable news shows pundits K.O vs O'reilly for example.that argue Left vs. Right ad infinitum.
When people are being led around like sheep by these three card monty games its understandable that real solutions are the last thing people would be able to come up with.
My solution to all the worlds problems would be to release the stranglehold the rich have on the poor and middle class. Im not an advocate of communism so dont misunderstand me. Until the economy is stablized through the rich voluntarily or being forced to knock down the cost of living requirements and prices on gasoline and food etc. they cant be any real change. If the fucking Iraq fiasco is wasting billions a day- dont take it out on us. You started all these wars say to them. You can end stop them any time you wish. With the rich and powerful lie the chance for the solutions- not us- unless the whole country decided to go on strike as a message to the elite weve had enough of your shit and your mind games- that would be something wouldnt it-there will be no real change.
Unfortunately - as you must well know- our idea of a solution is considered a problem to them. "Let them eat cake" seems to be their reply- a completely dismissive attitude towards us. When will it end. I dont believe it ever will- because the conditions for change have been all but eliminated. They control the elements of the oppression. They control the elements of the dissent the opposition and the resistance. Its signed sealed and delivered. There will be no hugs for the people - only the sting of the whip until there is no more middle class.
Remember the famous outcry by us in the late 1700"s "No taxation without representation!" When was the last time we felt represented?
We have the same problem these days dont we. So what are we going to do about it? Like I said a countrywide strike is the only solution that I can see as working. To send a message that we are not going to take it anymore.
No one speaks for us anymore. They pay us lip service and make all kinds of promises but in the end things keep getting worse. The rich get richer. CEO's used to be millionares. Now they are billionares. The poor get poorer. We get less real spending power after inflation and pay more than ever to get into our cars to go visit relatives and friends. Were broke all the time We try not to show how dissapointed we are. We try to keep a game face on and make the best of it- all the while we are hurting. Economically-physically- mentally-and spiritually.
So youre completely correct - talk is cheap- and for real solutions the dogs and cats of this board and all the boards in the country have got to realize this dancing around our problems and polarization of the issues into a right/left yap-fest is not striking back at the oppression we are being forced to endure- it is collaborating with it- appeasing it if you will.
Giving alot to get a little as our lot in life while they get alot and lately give us NOTHING is the problem. Lets do something about it and stop it before it kills this country- and most of us along with it. A countrywide strike- heck a Worldwide strike because the global elite are doing this to all countries now- by every working tax paying underrepresented human being on this planet is my solution. Not - mind you- that I would ever believe that it could be organized without the help of the K.O.'s and O'reillys who are supposedly "looking out for us" helping get the idea giong and coordinating the date/s for it to occur. It could be be for just ONE DAY. FU Day they should call it. everyone- or most everyone could afford to sacrifice one days pay :money8:to make a difference- couldnt they?
arty:
So thats my solution. Whats yours?:howdy:
You sound like a thinking man- able to see that the Left and Right are simply two sides of the same coin. The fact that your sick and tired of people yapping about bought and paid fors like the Obama's and Mccain's of the world is admirable.
Lobbyists are nothing more than a criminal network of bagmen who pay these politicians senators congressman judges alike enormous sums to vote and rule and judge the way they do. The american peoples interests are not served here- only the interests of the global elite and their cash cow multination corporatons that are sucking the middle class dry like vampires on the hunt. Meanwhile the Church tells us to pray that things will get better and the fat ass well offers tell us "dont worry- be happy!"
Youve got to remember that the SHIT that people regurgitate on this board can usually be traced back to the talking points of the political cable news shows pundits K.O vs O'reilly for example.that argue Left vs. Right ad infinitum.
When people are being led around like sheep by these three card monty games its understandable that real solutions are the last thing people would be able to come up with.
My solution to all the worlds problems would be to release the stranglehold the rich have on the poor and middle class. Im not an advocate of communism so dont misunderstand me. Until the economy is stablized through the rich voluntarily or being forced to knock down the cost of living requirements and prices on gasoline and food etc. they cant be any real change. If the fucking Iraq fiasco is wasting billions a day- dont take it out on us. You started all these wars say to them. You can end stop them any time you wish. With the rich and powerful lie the chance for the solutions- not us- unless the whole country decided to go on strike as a message to the elite weve had enough of your shit and your mind games- that would be something wouldnt it-there will be no real change.
Unfortunately - as you must well know- our idea of a solution is considered a problem to them. "Let them eat cake" seems to be their reply- a completely dismissive attitude towards us. When will it end. I dont believe it ever will- because the conditions for change have been all but eliminated. They control the elements of the oppression. They control the elements of the dissent the opposition and the resistance. Its signed sealed and delivered. There will be no hugs for the people - only the sting of the whip until there is no more middle class.
Remember the famous outcry by us in the late 1700"s "No taxation without representation!" When was the last time we felt represented?
We have the same problem these days dont we. So what are we going to do about it? Like I said a countrywide strike is the only solution that I can see as working. To send a message that we are not going to take it anymore.
No one speaks for us anymore. They pay us lip service and make all kinds of promises but in the end things keep getting worse. The rich get richer. CEO's used to be millionares. Now they are billionares. The poor get poorer. We get less real spending power after inflation and pay more than ever to get into our cars to go visit relatives and friends. Were broke all the time We try not to show how dissapointed we are. We try to keep a game face on and make the best of it- all the while we are hurting. Economically-physically- mentally-and spiritually.
So youre completely correct - talk is cheap- and for real solutions the dogs and cats of this board and all the boards in the country have got to realize this dancing around our problems and polarization of the issues into a right/left yap-fest is not striking back at the oppression we are being forced to endure- it is collaborating with it- appeasing it if you will.
Giving alot to get a little as our lot in life while they get alot and lately give us NOTHING is the problem. Lets do something about it and stop it before it kills this country- and most of us along with it. A countrywide strike- heck a Worldwide strike because the global elite are doing this to all countries now- by every working tax paying underrepresented human being on this planet is my solution. Not - mind you- that I would ever believe that it could be organized without the help of the K.O.'s and O'reillys who are supposedly "looking out for us" helping get the idea giong and coordinating the date/s for it to occur. It could be be for just ONE DAY. FU Day they should call it. everyone- or most everyone could afford to sacrifice one days pay :money8:to make a difference- couldnt they?
arty:So thats my solution. Whats yours?:howdy:
Americans are being beaten by whipmasters that they voted for.
Even Bush got re-elected after his mega clusterfuck.
So folk can't really complain.
Once people get enough abuse, they'll vote for change.
Britain had to go through 2 world wars and the great depression before enough folk got a clue.
so it might be a while yet...
Even Bush got re-elected after his mega clusterfuck.
So folk can't really complain.
Once people get enough abuse, they'll vote for change.
Britain had to go through 2 world wars and the great depression before enough folk got a clue.
so it might be a while yet...
The Psdt serves max 2 terms ... should apply across the board
ALL Lobbyists .... see ya
They require Presidents to be American born ... all tag a requirement
they have served in the Military ... those that understand combat
wont be so quick to volunteer the blood of others just because a
Muslim country has oil
ALL Lobbyists .... see ya
They require Presidents to be American born ... all tag a requirement
they have served in the Military ... those that understand combat
wont be so quick to volunteer the blood of others just because a
Muslim country has oil
The media convinced seventy percent of the US public that Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11.
The majority of people aren't difficult to manipulate and your media is exceptionally capable.
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Bush maintains Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda are connected
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- E IIMA -->US President George Bush has said there is no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in the 11 September attacks. The comments - among his most explicit so far on the issue - come after a recent opinion poll found that nearly 70% of Americans believed the Iraqi leader was personally involved in the attacks.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3118262.stm
The majority of people aren't difficult to manipulate and your media is exceptionally capable.
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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- E IIMA -->US President George Bush has said there is no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in the 11 September attacks. The comments - among his most explicit so far on the issue - come after a recent opinion poll found that nearly 70% of Americans believed the Iraqi leader was personally involved in the attacks.
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Eek: this chick said it all on Stewart's show ...
The Daily Show: Lara Logan on the US media: ‘I’d just blow my brains out because it would drive me nuts.’
By: John Amato @ 9:00 AM - PDT
Lara Logan is a big C&L favorite because she’s been in a war zone and not backed down from right wing narratives. She joins Jon Stewart and rocks the house down with this astute observation of the American media.
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The Daily Show: Lara Logan on the US media: ‘I’d just blow my brains out because it would drive me nuts.’
By: John Amato @ 9:00 AM - PDT
Lara Logan is a big C&L favorite because she’s been in a war zone and not backed down from right wing narratives. She joins Jon Stewart and rocks the house down with this astute observation of the American media.
Stewart: Do you watch the news that we’re watching?
Logan: No
Stewart: …in the United States? Do you see what we’re hearing about the war? So, we might actually know everything?
Logan: If I were to watch the news that you hear in the United States—I’d just blow my brains out because it would drive me nuts.
Really?
Are the Villagers watching? Do you hear?Logan: No
Stewart: …in the United States? Do you see what we’re hearing about the war? So, we might actually know everything?
Logan: If I were to watch the news that you hear in the United States—I’d just blow my brains out because it would drive me nuts.
Really?
Total, what a marvelous idea, I like it. The best I could come up with was not voting, yours is considerable better. The question is how would one organize it. It would have to be posted on a widely read blog or web site as the conventional media wouldn’t touch it. :thumbsup:
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It would be easy- Text messaging everybody in carefully chosen geographical areas from around the country first. Then those areas linkup and TM outward. Making larger and larger circles. The texts will be like a buildup to a summer blockbuster movie. FU -This lettering is multifaceted for maximum staying power in the prefrontal lobes. Translation- it will sound catchy and repeatable. The blogs begin to pick up the scent and the race is on. Every politico board will know about it- and yap right or wrong stuff at each other.
(FREE US) (Free U.S.) (FUCK U) DAY IS COMING.
Something like that. When you think the time is right - you start the countdown. Say 33 days.
27 DAYS TO FU. You know what I mean? Utilizing the subliminal just like they are doing every time you watch television.
10 DAYS TO FU.
They coubntry is beginning to stir. Billboards suddenly get painted 3 days before FU. Grafitti artists plaster the subways cars inside and out at 2.
FU DAY TOMMOROW will be the last text. No use texting on the day itself is there. They are either sitting there at home or at work.
By the time it happens people will be amazed at how easy it was to do. The effect is staggering. Politicians pick up on it and consign them to the pages of historical legend. "The great people of this country have chosen to make a stand." BTW- hospitals and rehabilitation centers and all emergency services would be asked not to participate even though most of the nurses wanted too.
The MSM will ignore it but but Howard Stern will make passing references to it a week before wondering out loud if the pilots have no passengers do they take off anyway? If the trains have no passengers will they still run? Financially it will be felt by the corporations at the top of this pyramid of corruption. The price of gas and food etc. will suddenly be lowered. Better to make less money than none the corporations stalff psychologists will advise the apopletic CEO's in danger of being fired and losing their golden retirement package. The local news cant ignore the story and it is aired They call it "the day the country stood still' or "the quiet revolution" or something on that note as the lead in. American ingenuity wins again they will say. God bless America- The National Anthem will sound sharper and will stir the emotions more than usual.
David Bowie tours the world with a resurgence of the demand for live performances of "We Could Be Heroes- Just For One Day."
It would be easy- Text messaging everybody in carefully chosen geographical areas from around the country first. Then those areas linkup and TM outward. Making larger and larger circles. The texts will be like a buildup to a summer blockbuster movie. FU -This lettering is multifaceted for maximum staying power in the prefrontal lobes. Translation- it will sound catchy and repeatable. The blogs begin to pick up the scent and the race is on. Every politico board will know about it- and yap right or wrong stuff at each other.
(FREE US) (Free U.S.) (FUCK U) DAY IS COMING.
Something like that. When you think the time is right - you start the countdown. Say 33 days.
27 DAYS TO FU. You know what I mean? Utilizing the subliminal just like they are doing every time you watch television.
10 DAYS TO FU.
They coubntry is beginning to stir. Billboards suddenly get painted 3 days before FU. Grafitti artists plaster the subways cars inside and out at 2.
FU DAY TOMMOROW will be the last text. No use texting on the day itself is there. They are either sitting there at home or at work.
By the time it happens people will be amazed at how easy it was to do. The effect is staggering. Politicians pick up on it and consign them to the pages of historical legend. "The great people of this country have chosen to make a stand." BTW- hospitals and rehabilitation centers and all emergency services would be asked not to participate even though most of the nurses wanted too.
The MSM will ignore it but but Howard Stern will make passing references to it a week before wondering out loud if the pilots have no passengers do they take off anyway? If the trains have no passengers will they still run? Financially it will be felt by the corporations at the top of this pyramid of corruption. The price of gas and food etc. will suddenly be lowered. Better to make less money than none the corporations stalff psychologists will advise the apopletic CEO's in danger of being fired and losing their golden retirement package. The local news cant ignore the story and it is aired They call it "the day the country stood still' or "the quiet revolution" or something on that note as the lead in. American ingenuity wins again they will say. God bless America- The National Anthem will sound sharper and will stir the emotions more than usual.
David Bowie tours the world with a resurgence of the demand for live performances of "We Could Be Heroes- Just For One Day."
